Condé Nast Traveler U.S. Editor Jesse Ashlock speaks with safari entrepreneur Beks Ndlovu on how he went from guiding to running his own operation, being a Black business owner in Africa, and his role in mitigating human-wildlife conflict.

“I don’t want people to support me or support my business because it’s a Black-owned business. I want people to see me and understand that I run a successful business. I am African, and I so happened to be Black and understand what it means to be able to deliver an experience, which is very different from the sort of traditional experience that people would have experienced 50 years ago.

What sphere of influence do I have on the people that work for me? You know, as a Black business, am I leading by example to the extent that people see me and imagine themselves to be in that position of success to say, I can actually do that.

That’s the example that people should have. They can excel not because of their color, but because they’ve got an equal opportunity to be able to excel.” — Beks Ndlovu, CEO, and Creator of African Bush Camps

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